Aside from the ancillary shield boosters (which aren't getting buffed) and the Gist line of shield boosters, which also aren't getting boosted, shield really isn't better than armor.

Old Tech 1 ship, vs ultra modern Tech 3 ship..

I'm not sure that this would be the right move. Excluding DG/CN boosters from the buff would actually make them less Cap efficient than T2 or Meta 4 boosters and would mean that their Cap efficiency was only fractionally above Meta 3. Similarly, excluding large and X-large Pith boosters means that the C-Type large or X-large boosters would be less cap efficient than T2.

The reason for this is that large and X-large Pith boosters aren't actually out of step with armour reppers, but actually follow the same pattern of increasing the boost amount by 10% of the boost provided by the equivalent faction booster on each step (Faction to C-Type to B-Type to A-Type) for the same activation cost. The only significant difference being the existence of an X-Type booster for each size for which there is no armour equivalent. Clearly, excluding any part of this chain from a 15% increase in boost amount is going to create some odd overlaps and inconsistencies.

However, the same is not true for small and medium Pith boosters or for any size of Gist booster. For these the gap between the faction boosters and deadspace boosters is huge. For example, small and medium C-Type Pith boosters give almost twice the boost of DG/CN for the same activation cost (albeit with a slightly longer cycle time) and for Gist C-Type the activation cost is significant reduced (up to 33%) whilst the boost amount increases (11%-85%!) compared to the equivalent Domi/RF modules. These are clearly unbalanced.

IMO the correct course of action would therefor be to include faction, large and X-large Pith boosters in the 15% increase to boost amount, but exclude small and medium Pith and all Gist boosters. Ideally, I would also completely overhaul to Gist and small and medium Pith boosters to bring them in line with other local reppers. However, I accept that with so much isk invested in these modules it will be a thankless task and, perhaps, too much to expect on this occasion.

And a Daredevil with single AAR decent prop mod and some thinking can tank an entire fleet of battleships shooting at it.

It's unfair, a frigate should not be able to tank or rep that much neither, amirite?

Edit: just in case you haven't noticed this sort of intelligent thinking is about the same level than the T3/BS comment, /sarcasm

Just for info, you can get over 6k active armour tank from a legion, and 6.7k from a abaddon.

Shield tank is in no way op, nor is armour tank underpowered, people who think that simply dont pvp much (or only do it in blobs). Yes, crystals give shield tankers an edge but nobles arent bad either and armour is way more cap efficient.

A pimped out astarte for example has less burst tank then a pimped sleipnir but due to pith x type cap consumtion it tanks quite a lot more overall. And if the sleipnir uses gist boosters it loses the edge and the armour tank simply tanks more.

And with the link changes a asb sleip tanks 3.8k dps with per asb with tengu links, hg crystals and a strong blue pill, that is already less then what a pimped armour tanker can tank, gets even weirder if you start to favor in the cycle time, 60 sec reload, ca 33 secs of boost per booster = a under 2k dps tank in reality. And thats with the best implants/links in game.

And while that sleipnir with heat reaches a 2.5k active tank, or a 5k burst tank with pith x a blinged hyperion (no officer stuff) can easily top 9k (again with nerfed links).

A fully blinged maelstrom tanks even less.


Armour tank is already superior to a shield tank in most situations on tq (a dual masb hawk for example reps in reality less then a dualrep incursus).


(all numbers with current propsed link/rep changes)

Abbadon's pitiful cap recharge makes it not even worth bothering with surely

It appears that you misquoted the lady


Now returning to your picture . . . if you think that is a proper fit you do not belong in PL